Children of Magneto: Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch

[General_Tojo]

Remember that even Elemental Mastery only affects an area the size of a city; she altered reality for the entire PLANET when she created House Of M, and then wiped out the mutants.

As Mystrich pointed out, I am looking to simulate the current version of Scarlet Witch. During House of M, her abilities had been boosted to the level of someone like the Sentry due to the interference of Doctor Doom. For that ultra-powerful Scarlet Witch, I would rename the Chaos Magic power set Augmented Chaos Magic, change Expert Sorcery d8 to Master Sorcery d10 (which she could step up to d12 with SFX); I would also rename the Probability Control power set to Reality Manipulation, and add some SFX that could step up Cosmic Mastery to d12, maybe something like the following:

SFX: Rewrite History: When Scarlet Witch has d8 or higher Mental Stress, step up her Mental Stress to step up or double Cosmic Mastery for one action. If the action fails, the Watcher must create a new Scene Distinction based on the subconscious desires of Scarlet Witch or any loved one of hers present. If the Scarlet Witch's mental stress is already d12 or higher when she uses this SFX, the Scarlet Witch is stressed at the end of this action, takes 1d6 mental trauma and is removed from the scene, while the Watcher creates a new Scene Distinction as above, but applies that same scene distinction to all subsequent scenes until the end of the Act.

I would also have to have a serious discussion with the player before letting him have this version.

I like them, though for Scarlet Witch, I'd probably remove Extents of Sorcery (so she can use both her power sets when hex-bolting) and possibly step it up to Sorcery Mastery. Cosmic Control, I'd just outright call it Chaos/Reality/Probability Control d10.

I do think the Extents of Sorcery limit is appropriate, since the Scarlet Witch's basic power is supposed to be making bad luck for opponents rather than just inflicting raw damage. Instead, I think adding Mystic Blast d6 to the Chaos Magic power set is a better way to go, and she could then use d6+d8 to throw Hex-Bolts. I do like the idea of just calling it Probability Control instead of Cosmic Control, though I will see if I get more input on these ideas before going back and re-editing the original posts.

[Atombomb]

This seems way to powerful, even for quicksilver.

The use of stunts, assets, complications and imagination will provide you with all the diversity your hero needs. I feel like you tried to cover every aspect by loading these characters heavily with SFX.

And Pietro has way too many specialties IMO.

[General_Tojo]

This seems way to powerful, even for quicksilver.

The use of stunts, assets, complications and imagination will provide you with all the diversity your hero needs. I feel like you tried to cover every aspect by loading these characters heavily with SFX.

Multipower, High-Speed Adaptation and Super-Speed Combat Training are the only SFX Quicksilver has that Speed doesn't, but looking at it now, I can see where maybe that is too many. Maybe ditch the Multipower? I will admit that, since Quicksilver is one of my favorite characters, I've read just about everything he's been in, including his solo series where he led the Knights of Wundagore, so maybe I have seen him do too much in the comics. But his adaptations to high-speed are a part of just about every written description I've seen.

In any case, I definitely want Quicksilver to have tricks Speed doesn't. To me, the Super-Speed Combat Training is the must-keep SFX. It is pretty situational, but I remember in DC vs. Marvel when Quicksilver fought the much-faster Flash, it was remarked that Quicksilver's one advantage was he had specially trained to fight other speedster opponents. Not sure where he got that training, but it was a big deal.

Quicksilver is the premiere speedster in the Marvel Universe, and given the ubiquity of that superpower, I do think he should have a little extra oomph.

And Pietro has way too many specialties IMO.

This may be true. Looking at it now, Covert is a stretch, it was really more an application of the speed that I was thinkng of. Tech Expert comes from his tendency to quickly disassemble complex machinery, but do you think it's not warranted either?

Thanks a lot for the input. Do you think stripping Multipower and Covert Expert (and maybe Tech Expert too) would do the trick?

[Eviltoon]

I am also a huge Pietro fan. I feel he isn't all that terribly skilled. In my build, for my home game, I use recruit d6 skills. Pietro has Acro master to fit his "speed training", has mystic expert from a life of dealing with it, and then a smatter of Recruit.

Because Pietro is amazing, but it's because he uses his speed to overcompensate for skill.

Multipower is superfluous anyway. You aren't going to be using more than Godlike Reflexes or Godlike Speed in a pool, not both, really. So yeah.

Mine has a goodly number of SFX tho, too, with three limits to counter. Because he is just a clever boy.

[General_Tojo]

Thanks for all the input, I have gone back and edited my Pietro in the original post based on the critiques here: http://www.margaretweis.com/mwp_forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1312#p13349

I feel he isn't all that terribly skilled. In my build, for my home game, I use recruit d6 skills. Pietro has Acro master to fit his "speed training", has mystic expert from a life of dealing with it, and then a smatter of Recruit.

Though I decreased the number of specialties dramatically, and I agree with most everything else you said, I absolutely believe Quicksilver has combat expert, because his combat training is specifically mentioned more than once in the comics (including training with Captain America that was portrayed in Avengers).

[General_Tojo]

Made major updates to these datafiles, including an alternate Scarlet Witch at her mega-powerful Decimation/Disassembled/House of M levels, at which point she is also very mentally unstable. And I also fixed Quicksilver based on input and recent publications.

Scarlet Witch is in this post at the beginning of the thread: http://www.margaretweis.com/mwp_forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1312#p13348

Quicksilver is in the second post: http://www.margaretweis.com/mwp_forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1312#p13349