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Extraordinary Success

Extraordinary Success

Postby Rick Danger » Sun May 06, 2012 6:39 am

Page OM51, end of the first paragraph: "By this method, it’s possible to step an effect die up past d12, in which case you can either declare that you’ve automatically stressed out your opponent (if you were trying to inflict stress) or you can use a second remaining die from your roll as an effect die."

What can you use this second die for?
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Re: Extraordinary Success

Postby chaosnet » Sun May 06, 2012 7:11 am

All effect dice can be used to create Assets, Complication or Stress, so you could deal another type of stress or create some type of complication on your target (which is probably overkill is they've taken D12+ and are stressed out).
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Re: Extraordinary Success

Postby Rick Danger » Sun May 06, 2012 8:34 am

Ok, thanks. Extra stress of a different type sounds good.
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Re: Extraordinary Success

Postby MidnightBlue » Mon May 07, 2012 8:51 am

chaosnet wrote:All effect dice can be used to create Assets, Complication or Stress, so you could deal another type of stress or create some type of complication on your target (which is probably overkill is they've taken D12+ and are stressed out).



But a good narrative of the Stress-Out + Complication would be slapping the cuffs on after you knocked the bad guy out.

Spider-Man webs the unconscious baddie out to make sure he doesn't get away, should he wake before the police arrive.

Thing does the same thing by wrapping a steel girder around the guy.

Etc.
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Re: Extraordinary Success

Postby Supplanter » Mon May 07, 2012 9:22 am

I'm trying to get my head around the word "or" in that passage, though, which sounds key.

1. "It's POSSIBLE to [step up past D12]"
2. so you CAN automatically stress out your opponent
3. OR you can use a second effect die

This makes it sounds like if you choose Clause 3, you don't also get Clause 2. Like, if I roll . . .

* 23 TOTAL, and D10, D8, D6 - my default effect die is D10

You roll . . .

* 13 TOTAL and D8, D8 - your default effect is D8

I have two levels of overwhelming success, yay! I think I have the following choices:

a) Step my D10 up twice and stress you out. Booyah! You just got one-shotted. But that's "all" I do: stress you out with one roll.

b) Do my D10 stress to you. ALSO use my available D8 as an effect die of some sort "for free."

What I CAN'T do (I think):

c) Step up my D10 twice, one-shotting you, AND use my available D8 as a free additional effect die. Because AND is not OR, and the rule says "or."

But of course I could be wrong! :D

So why would I choose (b) instead of (a)? A few possibilities:

* You might already be sitting on D12 stress. I don't NEED to step up my result to stress you out. Now I can do something else with my overwhelming success, like create an asset for myself.
* You might be a D8 or D6 mob or large-scale threat. D10 is already enough to reduce one of your dice. Now I can apply the D8 as additional damage to you.
* I just might like to play with my food a little. 8-)


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Re: Extraordinary Success

Postby EldritchFire » Mon May 07, 2012 10:14 am

Supplanter wrote:
* I just might like to play with my food a little. 8-)

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