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How Does Durability Work?

How Does Durability Work?

Postby SmilingCoyote » Mon May 07, 2012 9:57 am

Say you were attacked with a stick D8 and you have superhuman Durability D10.

Attacker rolls 14 and D8 Effect.

You react by trying to dodge, roll 10 and D10 Effect (your durability dice chosen as it rolled low).

What happens? You get hit but does your durability come into play.

Does this mean that it is possible for a person armed with nothing hurt sentry with Durability D10 with a luck roll?

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Re: How Does Durability Work?

Postby EldritchFire » Mon May 07, 2012 10:24 am

SmilingCoyote wrote:Say you were attacked with a stick D8 and you have superhuman Durability D10.

Attacker rolls 14 and D8 Effect.

You react by trying to dodge, roll 10 and D10 Effect (your durability dice chosen as it rolled low).

What happens? You get hit but does your durability come into play.


If your effect die is larger then theirs, you step their die back by 1 before applying it as stress. Your durability came into play because you got to add a d10 to your dice pool!

It's always "in play," but sometimes you roll poorly, and it doesn't help you (or your enemy gets lucky, however you want to view it). Other times, you get lucky, and ignore the stress altogether! If you want to make sure you don't take any stress from that hit, make sure you have the invulnerable SFX.

SmilingCoyote wrote:Does this mean that it is possible for a person armed with nothing hurt sentry with Durability D10 with a luck roll?

Thanks.


Nope, sure doesn't! See OM06, When To Roll Dice. Having an unarmed, nameless person throwing a temper tantrum at the Sentry "isn’t an interesting part of the story" because "There’s no risk, challenge, or threat involved." However, if they're a martial arts master who can break steel beams with their hands, then "You’re not sure if your hero will succeed or fail."

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Re: How Does Durability Work?

Postby Yancy Street Clown » Mon May 07, 2012 10:44 am

EldritchFire wrote:
If your effect die is larger then theirs, you step their die back by 1 before applying it as stress. Your durability came into play because you got to add a d10 to your dice pool!

-EF


EF, I was under the understanding that the effect die was only used when the reaction defeated the action, and the player spent a PP to create an effect. I like the shift idea with the larger effect die on defense (it helps close what I think is a large gap between durability and invulnerability), but would you use a PP to activate?
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Re: How Does Durability Work?

Postby chaosnet » Mon May 07, 2012 10:58 am

EF, I was under the understanding that the effect die was only used when the reaction defeated the action, and the player spent a PP to create an effect. I like the shift idea with the larger effect die on defense (it helps close what I think is a large gap between durability and invulnerability), but would you use a PP to activate?


If the Reaction check FAILS to beat the Action Check, then it is possible for the Defender (The Reaction Checker) to step down the Attacker's Effect Die IF the Defender's Effect Die is HIGHER (not equal to, only higher) than the Attackers.
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Re: How Does Durability Work?

Postby Yancy Street Clown » Mon May 07, 2012 11:05 am

chaosnet wrote:
If the Reaction check FAILS to beat the Action Check, then it is possible for the Defender (The Reaction Checker) to step down the Attacker's Effect Die IF the Defender's Effect Die is HIGHER (not equal to, only higher) than the Attackers.


Thanks Chaosnet and EF I missed that.
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Re: How Does Durability Work?

Postby Cam » Mon May 07, 2012 11:08 am

Also, unlike some games, the outcome of your action is not just dependent on one thing (i.e. a stick). Your dice pool factors in all variables that are narratively important. If the game was purely attack die vs. defense die, yes, we'd probably have gone about this differently.

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Re: How Does Durability Work?

Postby EldritchFire » Mon May 07, 2012 1:04 pm

Yancy Street Clown wrote:
EldritchFire wrote:
If your effect die is larger then theirs, you step their die back by 1 before applying it as stress. Your durability came into play because you got to add a d10 to your dice pool!

-EF


EF, I was under the understanding that the effect die was only used when the reaction defeated the action, and the player spent a PP to create an effect. I like the shift idea with the larger effect die on defense (it helps close what I think is a large gap between durability and invulnerability), but would you use a PP to activate?


OM50, bold letters: "If the reaction effect die is larger than yours, you have to step back your effect die by one."

So no PP needed!

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Re: How Does Durability Work?

Postby Lazy Wombat » Tue May 08, 2012 4:42 am

If Durability is being used in a reaction roll, isn't that less a case of attempting to dodge and more of just taking the blow?
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Re: How Does Durability Work?

Postby MidnightBlue » Tue May 08, 2012 11:30 am

Lazy Wombat wrote:If Durability is being used in a reaction roll, isn't that less a case of attempting to dodge and more of just taking the blow?


I could see Durability used in an evasion narrative, since even if you don't fully dodge you are possibly still shirking off some of the damage...i.e. a glancing blow.

But yeah, I'd usually use something like Reflexes or Flight/Speed/Teleportation if I were trying to show the attempt as dodging out of the way.

But it's just how you sell the action and dice pool.

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